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Topic: The Learning Machine Web

Dror Kessler
posted 11/5/2001  08:38Send e-mail to userReply with quote
In the post, I’d like to introduce you to the idea of the Learning Machine Web (LMW) and solicit your feedback.

The general idea is to build a platform with the following goals in mind:
- Publicize the contest results, the authors and their players.
- Run the contest and future leagues.
- Create an active arena of players, games, and training aids to support the research collaboration.

As you can understand, I have already done most of the work as I’m going to use it internally to run the leagues. It currently contains all the information submitted (players, games, submitter’s bio, player’s algorithmic approach, etc.). It supports running players in a single game, head-to-head, online. Its great fun.

I plan to start releasing it the following weeks. I will send an email to all the submitter asking if they have a problem with their data becoming public. I will try and accommodate users asking to stay anonymous.

I probably should hold on the releasing even the first version until the final list of stable players is establish since it wouldn’t be fair to expose the algorithmic approaches of the already submitted players while some users are given a chance to fix (interface) bugs.

Initially, I planned to release a read-only version of the LMW (RO - no way to run and download things) this week. I’m now holding until I finish sanity testing of the players.

OK. I’ll stop here. I’d love to hear from you on the subject.

-- Dror

Last edited by Dror Kessler @ 11/8/2001 1:59:00 PM

ctrucza
posted 11/5/2001  11:10Send e-mail to userReply with quote
 
Dror Kessler wrote @ 11/5/2001 8:38:00 AM:
Create an active arena of players, games, and training aids to support the research collaboration.
...
I probably should hold on the releasing even the first version until the final list of stable players is establish


 
I personally think that creating that "active arena" would be very exciting. It could extend this forum. Running interactive contests with submitted entries, submitting new entries (not for the contest, but to see how it performs) sounds interesting, as I'm kinda bored with SmartStupid :-)

Disclosing entrants' details (algorithmic approach) will be probably best to leave after the contest starts, but this "arena" could be used as testbed for ongoing research and development.



bbk
posted 11/6/2001  12:54Send e-mail to userReply with quote
I support the idea and look forward to it.

Bjorn


Dr. Simon Ronald
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posted 11/6/2001  22:29Reply with quote
A great idea:

suggest

- allow people to submit new judge programs so the list of benchmark programs can accumulate

- allow multi-bot tournaments

- how would you control the loading on the server?

- have a leaderboard so that every week an automatic competition creates a player ranking

- have a hall of fame - a list of the number one bots, the time that it was number one, the technique used etc.

- have a forum on the site

- promote that idea that groups can get together for discussion and create "collaborative" entries.



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Lior Fainshil
posted 11/6/2001  23:56Send e-mail to userReply with quote
This is a great idea indeed. The only possible problem I see is the server load if everyone will try to run a tournament.


Mike
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posted 11/7/2001  02:51Reply with quote
Simple. Create a queue of tournaments to be run. Everytime someone submits a tournament, check to see that that tournament (with those exact same bots) is not already in the queue, then queue it. This would make one tournament run at a time so the load would not be too much. Also, keep track of which bots have been submitted for tournaments. If one bot is submitted too often, make sure that bot's tournaments are postponed until the rest of the bots are almost at the same level (this will keep one person from bogging the system with too many tournaments with their bot).


CoBzY
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posted 3/29/2002  18:01Send e-mail to userReply with quote
could you tell me how to create and manage my own forum?
I'm having trouble in MS Office 2K

Thnx

CoBzY

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