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tkorrovi
posted 7/22/2011  19:11Send e-mail to userReply with quote
A conscious being which is in the state of destruction, has to adapt to the destruction within oneself. As a result, that being starts to like destruction everywhere around oneself. So that for that being, destruction would look beautiful, and harmony and happiness would look horrible. Destruction and decay is good only as much as it enables creation, and not more. Dung is one example of destruction. Thus when such beings in the state of destruction have enough influence, this results in the production of increasingly more dung all around the world.

All the arguments against are welcome.


Sleepalot
posted 8/3/2011  23:14Send e-mail to userReply with quote
I would call your dung theory inconsistent with your destructive consciousness theory simply because dung has no mind.

 http://www.elephantdungpaper.com/process.html

tkorrovi
posted 8/4/2011  01:31Send e-mail to userReply with quote
Thank you for participating in this important discussion ;)

You are completely right that dung has no mind. But in my thesis, dung represents decay, an important element of nature. I would try to explain the importance of the knowledge about the matters like these.

It is known that brain represents the receiving end of the food canal. Not enough attention has been drawn to the opposite end, which in that sense is similar to the brain, but has a reverse purpose. Both creation and decay are the aspects of both ends of the food canal, but creation dominates the front end, and decay dominates the rear end. We may go further and say that the front end is universal what concerns the creation, and the rear end is universal what concerns the decay.

Not enough attention has been paid to the processes which happen at the rear end, in spite that both the processes which happen at the front end and the rear end are important. And thus it is not surprising that a lot of attention has been paid to the processes which happen in the macrosystems such as society, which correspond to the processes which happen at the front end, such as regulation and development. But not much attention has been paid to the processes which correspond to the processes which happen at the rear end, such as destruction and decay. In spite that both types of processes happen in these macrosystems, and in some systems the second type of processes are prevalent.

When we don't know much about these processes, we don't know much about such macrosystems, which means a severe lack of important understanding, because such macrosystems are not rare at all.

Last edited by tkorrovi @ 8/4/2011 1:44:00 AM

Sleepalot
posted 8/4/2011  23:18Send e-mail to userReply with quote
Ok, so in my mind, my perspective, creation happens outside of the body. Plants, fire, soup, whatever. It is that entrance of the food canal that starts the decay, and dung is simply the end product of the whole process. Once something enters the mouth the decay process begins. And the end result is something that other things may find useful (plants, flies, bacteria). Take cheese for example. Cheese is dung, millions of bacteria eat away at milk and leave behind something that isn't useful to them, but most definitely useful to me! Cheese isn't decay, it's the end result of bacteria "decaying" it to their usefulness. Another simpler example is cows eat the grass, and feed the grass.

My point being, I wouldn't call the front end creation, I would call the whole system decay.

Anyways, gotta go, I'll be back though.


Sleepalot
posted 8/5/2011  12:31Send e-mail to userReply with quote
ok, I'm back. Now, back to what I was saying. All that points against the Idea that the front end and the back end being two seperate entities, since they are part of the same process, a process that would happen regardless, but since it enters us, it happens at an accelerated rate. Now, the closest thing I can Imagine to you mirroring this theory, which I don't completely understand, to society, is how society would cut down trees (the start of the decaying process), turn the wood into whatever, and throw away the excess into a hole. In which case a TON of attention has been given to the "rear end" or expelling of the excess, or what you would call decay. in fact it's been taken in by popular culture and many businessnesses have been "going green" because it's a trend. more and more people are finding sustainable actions, environments, and buildings to be a beautiful thing, despite the fact that so many people love to see violent destructive movies.

On top of everything, like I said, I could be totally off track because I'm not understanding the purpose of, or where you're going with this theory, but from what I can understand, Dung is not only not a conscious being of what it itself is, but it is also not decay.

If you could help me understand better what you're getting at with all this perhaps I can also get a little more direct with my ideas as well. Going back and reading what I wrote, I am a little all over the place, teehee.


tkorrovi
posted 8/5/2011  18:01Send e-mail to userReply with quote
When people would not have resources to get rid of dung, then people would decay, this would be very green.


Sleepalot
posted 8/5/2011  19:49Send e-mail to userReply with quote
True true, it's already happening in some parts of the world.


Humans R Algorithms
posted 10/13/2011  21:49Send e-mail to userReply with quote
Vitamin K... a nutrition we get from our own dung through absorption in the intestines.
Compost ... the best dung conversion machine about. Mix half cow dung with household vege and paper/card scrap and cook in a pit for 8 weeks. .. Sloe process.





Humans R Algorithms
posted 10/13/2011  21:49Send e-mail to userReply with quote
Dung Beetle



 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dung_beetle
Last edited by Humans R Algorithms @ 10/29/2011 7:56:00 AM

maks
posted 11/3/2011  07:55Send e-mail to userReply with quote
Black hole and white hole.

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