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 |  tkorrovi |
|  |  |  |  |  | posted 11/30/2011 19:09 |      |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | P-frap, please write your nonsense here and don't spoil other threads. Thank you.
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 |  p-frap |
|  |  |  |  |  | posted 12/3/2011 07:20 |    |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |
Feel free to comment on anyone-else's threads or posts. I just ask you to please not reply to any of mine as your negativity brings me down and it tends to destroy constructive conversations.
Spend some time reading back through some of your posts. Seriously have a look.
You have a tendency to jump on people, tell them they are wrong and begin to push your project and/or your ideologies on them. You have a closed mind. From your posts I know what you think and your thoughts haven't changed over time. You have no need to repeat your thoughts - I have heard you.
Just leave me alone and I will stop reminding you to please not comment on my posts. Deal?
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 |  will i dream |
|  |  |  |  |  | posted 12/9/2011 04:02 |      |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | p-frap - your wasteing your time
that clown just spouts out what ever enters his head.
I have had several posts DESTYROYED by tkorroviblaablaa's childish behavour -
he comes out with stuff like "people who supported me" and "people who are out to get me" - all in his head!
if you disagree with his devine opinion he starts waffelling on with one of his other usernames - he has at least 2 that i know of
myself and several others here now communicate by e-mail - just to keep his bull out of the conversations.
your welcome to join
its a pity as I used to enjoy this site - but his childish behaviour here has made it a pointless for many.
cheers
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 |  tkorrovi |
|  |  |  |  |  | posted 12/9/2011 10:29 |      |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | | will i dream wrote @ 12/9/2011 4:02:00 AM:
if you disagree with his devine opinion he starts waffelling on with one of his other usernames - he has at least 2 that i know of
| | Will i dream, thank you too for writing in this thread and not spoiling other threads with that nonsense.
I have only one user name in this forum and no others, admins can find it out by ip addresses, and i ask them to do that. No other posts come from my ip address and no, i don't have many computers and many internet connections, in fact i have only one.
So now it goes to the phase of lies and false accusations. Accusations which are deliberately vague and not checkable, so their only aim can be discrediting me.
If you accuse me of using several user names in this forum, then you must say at least one other user name which you accuse me of using. Then it is possible to find out whether the posts written by that user come from the same ip address as my posts or not.
> cheers
So you think that what you are writing is entertaining to anyone, i doubt that. Sorry to say, you are not even a good entertainer.
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 |  p-frap |
|  |  |  |  |  | posted 12/10/2011 08:34 |    |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |
oh will i dream. I may be foolish but I think it's worth a shot. It doesn't feel like it is too much to actually ask someone not to comment on your posts. I'm still waiting to see if tkorrovi can happily oblige. I'm more than happy not to comment on his stuff and I think it's fair enough that I can contribute to the community without him blabbing all over the place about stuff I've said.
Speaking of blabbing if you look at his stuff he rarely make sense. He'll pick out some obsure quote like "> cheers" like he did to your post just then and ramble off on some weird tangent or go off into some fantasy land like you mentioned. I don't really have a problem with him doing it and I don't necessarily want him kicked off the site - I just don't want what it is he does to my posts.
Now, if I had a browser extension that could hide his posts I would be stoked! Maybe the admins here can create a tkorrovi toggle button. That would be good too. I'm not wanting to character assassinate the guy either. I just want something very simple. A pact that says we'll avoid one another. If others want to create pacts with others they can do what they like - I don't care.
This is the path I've chosen to deal with this problem. There are other paths I could have taken. All I know is I will never reply to any reply he makes to my posts as he just feeds on the more you give him. He's illogical and I know all to well that you cannot beat illogic with logic. I don't want to have to hide in a new selective community. As it is a community I should be able to deal with the locals here because I don't know what it is but I just happen to like this site. You're a member I definitely miss seeing around. I think it's crap everyone has to hide because somehow tkorrovi got his account back.
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 |  tkorrovi |
|  |  |  |  |  | posted 12/10/2011 11:05 |      |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | | p-frap wrote @ 12/10/2011 8:34:00 AM:
It doesn't feel like it is too much to actually ask someone not to comment on your posts.
| | To ask, no. But it is much too much to force force it on someone as you do with me, because you don't have that right. Have you ever heard about something called freedom of word?
Don't think that you would find a good ally in will i dream, he too is for bottom up approach and doesn't like top down approach like you. So you two may be against me, but there is no use of it for either of you.
If you have problems with propagating your approach and difficulty in finding people who like your ideas, have you ever thought that there can be some non-aggressive solution, other than forbidding some people from writing where you write, etc? Perhaps some subforum could be created here, conventional ai, good old ai, whatever. Or a forum called true ai, this is where i would be, because this is the only ai i deal with, and you likely would not be there. But with the present forum structure, these topics are not separated, so people with very different opinions write everywhere. This may not be what you like, but this is how this forum is organized now. Perhaps there is some other ai forum somewhere which is better for you, i am not in other ai forums, so why don't you try to find a place where are people who you like?
> He'll pick out some obsure quote like "> cheers"
You don't understand, but don't accuse others in that. Will i dream called me clown, so what i said was that even if i am a clown, i'm still better than he is. If i'm an ai clown, than i'm a good ai clown, and a good clown is better than someone who even cannot be funny.
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 |  p-frap |
|  |  |  |  |  | posted 12/11/2011 09:21 |    |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |
tkorrovi
I want to write this as simple as possible so you can understand it completely.
1. You are free comment on other peoples posts.
2. You are free to start new threads and begin topics/threads.
3. I have always stated if you are inspired by my words you are still free to write.
4. I have not tried to silence you.
5. I have attempted to have you not comment on what I say in the same thread. You can comment in a different thread if you want to reply to me or comment in the same thread if you aren't replying to me - so long as it's not a thread I started.
6. The reason I'd like it if you didn't comment on my posts is so your negativity and your closed mindedness (not to mention the more delusional and nonsensical statements) don't kill the rest of the discussion as they have a tendency to do so.
7. will i dream sounds like he's come up against the same issues so it does appear that a problem exists with your habbits.
Please let me know if don't understand any of these 7 points. They are pretty simple.
Point 6 is the important point. Just contemplate it for a while. After thinking for a while you could come back and say "Hey, maybe I can try to open my mind up a bit, ask some tough, well thought out questions and not just say something negative and close down the discussion or guide the talk back to my failed project." If you did that I'd think it would be a step in the right direction at least.
Frankly though, I don't see how ignoring me here is so hard. Most others here do and that's cool.
I don't ask you to agree with me. I don't ask anyone to agree with me. I simply ask people to think about ideas and to think about all ideas in the context of the future we are heading into without destroying conversations before they start.
If this post isn't simple enough and still confuses you just tell me this...
Why can't you just leave me alone?
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 |  tkorrovi |
|  |  |  |  |  | posted 12/11/2011 11:28 |      |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | | p-frap wrote @ 12/11/2011 9:21:00 AM:
Why can't you just leave me alone?
| | You started to address me, i have talked about things and not persons.
Will you please stop talking to me personally and leave me alone?
I'm not willing to argue with you.
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 |  p-frap |
|  |  |  |  |  | posted 12/11/2011 12:05 |    |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |
I just have one outstanding question from all of this...
Can you just leave me alone when I post something about AI, please?
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 |  tkorrovi |
|  |  |  |  |  | posted 12/11/2011 15:14 |      |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | I have never started to tell anything to you personally. Please leave me alone.
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 |  p-frap |
|  |  |  |  |  | posted 12/11/2011 20:57 |    |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |
Will you leave me alone when I try to post something about AI, please?
Yes or no?
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 |  tkorrovi |
|  |  |  |  |  | posted 12/11/2011 22:44 |      |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | I don't know what do you mean by leaving alone. I don't say anything to you personally, and this is what leaving alone means for almost all people.
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 |  p-frap |
|  |  |  |  |  | posted 12/11/2011 23:35 |    |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |
Will you stop replying to my posts when I post about AI, please?
Yes or no?
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 |  will i dream |
|  |  |  |  |  | posted 12/12/2011 16:58 |      |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | hi ya p-frap
just to give you an example of torrgivvi's ignorance i was telling him - IN CONFIDENCE - how i was trying to get of the drink (im off it now since 2 feb 2011 weh hey!) - THEN HE POSTS IT UP HERE
- WHAT A FU$%^&* DIC%$#@!
I had to get the site admin to remove his post - which he did - and fair play to the site admin
His problem is tht he thinks he is the worlds oracle on ai and he takes it FAR FAR FAR to serious.
ai is a hobby for most people - including myself
I used to like posting ideas i might have here on the forum - and it was nice to hear other peoples ideas
but this idiot has ruined the idea of people discussing ideas openly , WITHOUT the condesending attitude that he brings to the forum
people might put up an idea and he instantly replys telling them they are wrong
who is this clown - and what kind of manners must he have to be telling people they are wrong , on a topic that NOBOBY has achieved yet - condesending, arrogant, ignorant are the words that spring to mind.
anyway - no doubt he will reply to this .00000000001 of a second after i hit post!!!!
jesus - tragicovvi - do u you live infront of a pc and watch this site 24/7?
heres an idea - turn off your pc , and go for a walk - meet some people, think of something else for christ sake
in other words - GET A LIFE YOU TWAT!
Im off p-frap - back to work in the music - ive been working on an album - have a listen - my work is free for anybody - adrianokeeffe.com
he'll probally start telling me my recording methods are wrong next !!!!!!!
be good
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 |  tkorrovi |
|  |  |  |  |  | posted 12/12/2011 18:51 |      |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | | will i dream wrote @ 12/12/2011 4:58:00 PM:
just to give you an example of torrgivvi's ignorance i was telling him - IN CONFIDENCE - how i was trying to get of the drink (im off it now since 2 feb 2011 weh hey!) - THEN HE POSTS IT UP HERE
| | Will i dream, i'm really sorry, i was wrong. I thought this was the reason, but now it appears that you are just a moron. I'm again deeply sorry for that.
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