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Alcides Iván Meza |
| | | | | | posted 3/13/2010 00:14 |   | | | | | | | | | When I made the first experimental version of the artificial thought, I found that I had to stick together all processes related to commands of thought in a single point or program. This program, which I call Madd.prg, adds all commands of artificial thought contained in a database and organizes them in a sequence of commands of thought. Then, based in this sequence, it establishes a course of action or route of thought.
Firstly, I thought that this design was a subject merely of organizational style and that it would not have any special impact in the functions of thought. It does not appear very advanced to think that in the human brain exists a functional organization of this type; that is to say, that all processes pass by inside an only place of decision, and that this site is organically differed.
But in very recent date, when I was preparing the scientific conference on the advances of the artificial thought within the Aëxz 1.5 version, with surprise I discovered new valuable elements on this point of addition, to the degree that I have established a new kraconologic concept to describe this new scientific component: the nucleus of commands of thought. I don't believe that is correct to call it "command center". I found that sentences as "how many are the exclamation marks?", which has a quantitative dimension, are sent by the nucleus of commands to the artificial simple mathematical thought. However, this inquisitive sentence is not really a mathematical one, and that is why I experimented modifying the original commands of thought in the database that accumulates them, and later I entered again the nucleus of commands of thought. The nucleus, thus, generated new directions and in one of them the request was resolved. All that was experimental, and it had design errors, which I corrected, totally changing the results.
The valuable thing about this experimental finding within the kraconology is that the nucleus of commands of thought is somewhat extremely dynamic, so that it permits the creation of states of mind, states of conscience, emotional states, and -in general- aspects of an artificial personality, interacting from different points of the artificial thought, and of the artificial knowledge, with this nucleus of commands.
The sequence of commands of artificial thought is not definitively fixed. So, I already had discovered when I processed sentences as this one: "in what place is localized the Chicago city?". Here, the artificial thought appeals to recursiveness, modifying the input sentence. That, in turn modifies the sequence of commands of thought. As I have written before, it is also possible to modify directly the sequence of commands, using the nucleus of commands of thought.
Alcides Iván Meza.
Scientific Research Director.
Universidad Cristiana de Honduras.
San Pedro Sula, Honduras.
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tkorrovi |
| | | | | | posted 3/13/2010 00:41 | | | | | | | | | | | |
Alcides Iván Meza wrote @ 3/13/2010 12:14:00 AM:
The valuable thing about this experimental finding within the kraconology is that the nucleus of commands of thought is somewhat extremely dynamic
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So, what have i said.
The other thing is, i'm glad that you are alive. Based on what you said and your long silence i was really afraid that something bad happened to you.
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will i dream |
| | | | | | posted 3/15/2010 04:50 | | | | | | | | | | I spoke with this guy last year
and his responces to the Aëxz program were a waste
it did not work - in any Fing way
ALL BULLSHIT
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toborman |
| | | | | | posted 3/15/2010 07:29 | | | | | | | | | | I'm pleased that you have found the funding you need to continue your work. I'd be interested to hear what commands you have incorporated in this nucleus.
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Alcides Iván Meza |
| | | | | | posted 3/17/2010 23:48 | | | | | | | | | | There are eight basic commands of thought in natural thinking. Each one is related to an inquisitive word. These words are: “what”, “where”, “how”, “who”, “how much”, “how many”, “when”, “which”. In English, “what” is used most of all. I think English speakers use it too much. It is exaggerated its use. That creates some problems in artificial thought programming.
About “what”, there is also a complication. “what” can be an adjective, as in the inquisitive sentence “what color are your eyes?”. In this case, I use the command of thought “{queadj}”. But in the inquiring sentence “what is two multiplied by ninety-eight?”, the command word “what” acts as a quantitative pronoun, so, I use here the command of thought “{cant}”. These two commands of thought conduce artificial thought in different directions. Moreover, in English language there is one more difficult state about this: “what” is also a normal pronoun, as in “what are you doing?”. In this situation, the corresponding command of thought is “{queprn}”. In Spanish language, the same word, “qué”, is used only in the first and third form. The second form corresponds to “cuánto”, other command word.
I must explain that not always these words trigger a command of thought. For example, in the sentence “You know what I want.”. Since this is not an inquisitive sentence, the artificial thought does not require here the commands of thought that we are studying. Nevertheless, this sentence does require one special command of thought: “{you}”, which triggers conscious artificial thought. Conscious artificial thought is a special part of artificial thought, and its processes are very much different from normal artificial thought processes.
There are, also, general commands of artificial thought. Like “{vrb}”, which I use –in general- to apply in every verb. Other commands of thought are specific: “{you}”, “{I}”, which are used in artificial conscience. For example, in the sentence “who am I?”, Aëxz uses the command of thought “{I}” to manage the correct answer.
Mathematical operations also produce artificial thought’s commands. For example, “what is 2.3 + 3.9?”. The plus sign generates a command of thought, “{mas}”. Thus, we have here a sequence of commands of thought in this way: "{cant} {idn} de {mas}". This sequence of commands of thought aims to a completely determined direction.
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Octavius |
| | | | | | posted 3/18/2010 14:05 | | | | | | | | | | Nice thread. I'm new to this forum so I'm a bit lost. What exactly do you mean by 'command of thought'?
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tkorrovi |
| | | | | | posted 3/20/2010 15:20 | | | | | | | | | | | |
Alcides Iván Meza wrote @ 3/17/2010 11:48:00 PM:
There are eight basic commands of thought in natural thinking. Each one is related to an inquisitive word. These words are: “what”, “where”, “how”, “who”, “how much”, “how many”, “when”, “which”.
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If this nucleus is at that level, then it is indeed not worth to talk about. Sad that people cannot think deeper, i still hope Alcides would one day.
Unfortunately, "will I dream" would never be able to. It would be better if this guy would drink his beer alone rather than doing it while posting here, such posts can never be informative, sorry.
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tkorrovi |
| | | | | | posted 3/20/2010 15:25 | | | | | | | | | | | |
will i dream wrote @ 3/15/2010 4:50:00 AM:
ALL BULLSHIT
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I hope you drink a good beer, as this might be the case when your beer is better than you
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will i dream |
| | | | | | posted 3/24/2010 00:37 | | | | | | | | | | tkorovvi - My comment was not directed at you - it was directed at Alcides - look at this thread - http://www.ai-forum.org/topic.asp?forum_id=1&topic_id=67584 - I spent nearly a month with this tread - this Aëxz program of Alcides destroyed my system (had to ghost my c drive) and Alcides had nothing to say - Alcides , have you got your Aëxz program to do anything yet ? - like , lets say... work or have to ability to be uninstalled !!- as I could not remove your program from my computer - manual deletion ruined my O.S. - tkorovvi - download his Aëxz and install it and see for yourself -27Mb prog - crashes every time , then you cant uninstall it - i wouldnt recomend it thought.
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will i dream |
| | | | | | posted 3/24/2010 02:07 | | | | | | | | | | Alcides - you say things like "i have discovered"," i have established" -
i would be delighted if you did
are these claims based on observations of a working model - Aëxz ? , Madd.prg ?
if yes then describe the storage of the system data to me?
it should be very easy for you - as the proceses you claim to have discovered are far more complex than simple data storage
desribe the source's of new data - text,video,sound etc??
Has anyone got Aëxz to demonstrate what Alcides is saying?
Alcides I hope there are - Your claims are Dramatic to say the least -
if its the rare chance its my hardware then I would gladly stand corrected
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Alcides Iván Meza |
| | | | | | posted 3/24/2010 20:16 | | | | | | | | | | Creating artificial thought is an enormous scientific work. Most of this work has to be tested experimentally. And the findings emerge not at will, but as a result of working with the real world.
Aëxz 1.4 is advanced, experimentally, in Spanish language. In English language, is just a little bit beginning in experimentation. From Spanish to English, I attempted to prove if a theory developed within Kraconology was true. This theory is about the transposition of artificial thought between modern languages. I think that the basic structure and functionality of human thought can be used from one language to other, in this case, from Spanish -which I have posted as the model- to English, French, etc. I occasionally have tested it a little bit in my experiments with artificial thought. But I have no applied it in a wider form. So, in Aëxz 1.4 I tested this theory within the mathematical simple artificial thought; it was a very limited and very partial application. I made the modifications, not really a lot, from the Spanish artificial thought code to the new English artificial thought code. The result was extraordinary: Aëxz 1.4 can answer questions in English language, about the four basic mathematical operations. Questions like these:
What is forty-eight plus ninety-nine?
What is thirty-five multiplied by eight?
What is nineteen minus ten?
What is fifty divided by five?
It is limited to operations with quantities smaller than one hundred, as factors or as summands. If you make the calculation, will discover that Aëxz 1.4 can answer easily more than 40,000 questions in English mathematical simple artificial thought. It could be really more than that. It is not that much, but there is no any other program in the world with that capacity.
Aëxz 1.5 is a big difference from the previous version. I am working on it. In Spanish, it can answer more than 10**20 different questions. And so it will be doing in English. Not experimentally. Full simple artificial thought in both languages. And the quantity of paragraphs answered is infinite.
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will i dream |
| | | | | | posted 3/24/2010 21:57 | | | | | | | | | | again - has anybody out there downloaded this aexz program and had any results other than nothing??
i tried english and spanish and nothing - no answers - just crash
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will i dream |
| | | | | | posted 5/2/2010 03:18 | | | | | | | | | | again - no answer from you on the small topic that your ajax program does nothing except crash
all your talk on what you have discovered and established and yet when asked about this 'amazing' program (which wont answer any questions - even basic math) you go silent
"what is 6 by 4" - are you serious
my god - i have you established that you have made the breakthrough which has led to the discovery of A CALCULATOR -
i put it to you that you are a spammer and your ajax (yeh the toilet cleaner) is a spyware program
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Alcides Meza |
| | | | | | posted 7/26/2010 21:12 | | | | | | | | | | You just have to wait for Aëxz 1.5, if you want to use artificial thought in English language almost as is done in Spanish.
Aëxz 1.4 is experimental in English. Not fully developed.
I see your attitude toward science issues is not correct. I am sorry for it. You cannot be in a hurry in science. It is all based on hard work, and a great lot of intelligence. Science is not magical.
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tkorrovi |
| | | | | | posted 7/26/2010 21:34 | | | | | | | | | | "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"--Arthur C Clarke. Look, some disagree.
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Alcides Iván Meza |
| | | | | | posted 7/28/2010 01:28 | | | | | | | | | | | |
tkorrovi wrote @ 7/26/2010 9:34:00 PM:
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"--Arthur C Clarke. Look, some disagree.
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Human culture is made of science, but it is also made of opinions.
Opinions belong to subjective thought. Within subjective thought every person has his own opinion, not his own truth.
When I see Aëxz thinking, I look it as magical. But I really know that it is not. Making it appear magical is not a matter of magic. Its a matter of heavy thinking.
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tkorrovi |
| | | | | | posted 7/28/2010 02:11 | | | | | | | | | | I didn't want to argue that science is magic, i wanted to argue against your wider context. It seemed to me that you wanted to leave an impression that science is only about hard work done by intelligent beings, and so science looks very different from magic. I wanted to say that it is not necessarily a right way to look at it.
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Alcides Iván Meza |
| | | | | | posted 7/29/2010 21:38 | | | | | | | | | | I have tried various chat programs which are claimed as "artificial intelligence programs", Alice, Eliza, etc. Many of them. I have made simple mathematical questions like this one: "What is eighty-nine multiplied by ninety-two?" Remember, "will i dream", is a so simple question as to be considered a silly question, reading your mind, but these programs answer badly: they respond in this way "Eight by nine is...". And these programs have won the Loebner prize. Aëxz 1.4 can only solve mathematical questions in English, with the four basic operations, adding, multiplying,..., limited to using quantities lesser than one hundred, but he gives real answers or not answers at all.
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| | | | | | posted 7/30/2010 01:14 | | | | | | | | | | | |
Alcides Iván Meza wrote @ 7/29/2010 9:38:00 PM:
I have made simple mathematical questions like this one: "What is eighty-nine multiplied by ninety-two?"
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You are on the right track. I was asking the same logical questions to chat programs as this one, and answers were very bad. Chat program has to be able to reason logically first, else it's just some stupid program that puts out random general sentences which look related to conversation.
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